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| Posted: 8 Jun 2010 09:31 pm |
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outlandish unemployed grandpa
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Can-Am Launches Commander 1000 and 800 UTVs— By John Prusak on June 8, 2010 at 8:41 am When Can-Am decides it wants to enter a market, it doesn’t mess around. ![]() That was proven when the BRP brand launched the unique, head-turning Spyder motorcycle a couple of years ago, and it was reiterated with the launch today (June 8 ) of its UTV. Can-Am has now officially entered the UTV market with the launch of its 2011 Commander 1000 and Commander 800 models, but already this Johnny-come-lately to the side-by-side industry has set many new benchmarks for the market. It starts with strong engines, including the familiar Rotax 800R found in high-end Outlander and Renegade ATV models, and the new, fuel-injected, 976cc, liquid-cooled, 8-valve twin found in the Commander 1000. The engines are rated at 71 and 85 horsepower, respectively, immediately placing them as the two most powerful mills in the market. But the Commander is more than just powerful engine choices in a familiar chassis. Upon first glance, the Commander models ooze quality with superior fit and finish, stylish bodywork and many unique, well-thought-out features. No, it isn’t a super-sporty RZR-beater some were expecting — instead, it’s a complete package: a UTV that has the work capabilities of a true utility vehicle, combined with super-powerful engines and suspension, chassis and steering geometry that make it a riot to ride aggressively. 2011 Can-Am Commander Layout Dimensionally, the Commander is most like the Teryx – with a 58.6-inch width, 118.3-inch length and a 72-inch ![]() The Commander is a full-sized UTV with sporty handling. height. Its stance, plus its relatively low center of gravity, gives the machine good stability when powering through the woods or over obstacles. The low CG is enabled by a design that places the driver lower than most UTVs in its class (a Teryx, Rhino or Prowler, for example), but higher than a Ranger RZR. The seats are another new industry benchmark – super-comfortable, supportive and somewhat aggressive. The Commander comes with the typical three-point seatbelt design, along with tilt wheel, a handhold and grab bar for the passenger and easy to use buckling side nets. The suspension setup will be familiar to Can-Am ATV owners, with a double A-arm front suspension and Torsional Trailing Arm Independent (TTi) rear suspension, each offering 10 inches of travel controlled by preload-adjustable, coil-over shocks and with 11 inches of ground clearance. Four-wheel drive engages on command with a push on a toggle switch. Can-Am’s unique Visco-Lok front differential senses slippage and locks when needed. Oversized disc brakes with twin-piston calipers provide stopping power. The base machines ride on Carlisle 27×9x12 tires on steel wheels, though upgraded tires and wheels are available on X and XT models. ![]() The Commander's cockpit is very well laid-out. 2011 Can-Am Commander Technology Like a cool sports car, the Commander starts with the push on a dash-mounted button. Using a push button instead of turning a key really isn’t that high-tech, but it’s a cue to the way Can-Am engineers approached the vehicle. The most high-tech feature may be the Intelligent Throttle Control (iTC) system, which utilizes a system commonly called “drive-by-wire” in the automotive industry. In the Commander, the gas pedal serves as a potentiometer, accepting inputs from the driver and then sending an electronic signal to the ECU, which interprets the inputs and sends directions to the Bosch throttle body. The system allows Can-Am engineers to do several things. First, it allows the Commander to react differently to three ![]() 2011 Can-Am Commander different available keys. Put the black key in the ignition, and you get the full performance of the Commander. Use the gray key and the acceleration curve is milder, with a top speed of about 44 mph. Use the accessory orange key, and the top speed is limited to 25 mph. Beyond that, however, the system allows two different drive modes. When in the normal mode, the iTC system provides a smooth, consistent feel when going over bumpy terrain by not having the machine react to jerky pedal movements caused by the driver’s bouncing foot. Flip a dash-mounted switch to the “Sport” mode, however, and the power curve gets more perky, with more of a one-to-one relationship between gas pedal movements and the throttle body inputs. As a part of the package, Can-Am uses high-output, 640-watt magneto. ![]() 2011 Can-Am Commander In the back is another innovation. Can-Am engineers designed a two-level rear box, with a lockable, enclosed lower storage area beneath the standard box. The clean-sheet chassis design is also unique. The minimal, nearly symetrical rear suspension design is much less cluttered than most competitors. Also, a central frame rail runs between the two seats, front-to-rear, adding structural rigidity. 2011 Can-Am Commander Test Drive We spent some seat time in Commander models about three weeks ago and came away super-impressed. The throttle response, particularly of the 1000, was thrilling, and the handling through the tight woods was extremely impressive. The machines aren’t as sporty as the Polaris RZR models, but they are close, and they seem a lot more capable in terms of tradition utility uses – whether plowing snow, hauling a large animal home from a hunt or pulling a heavy trailer. Also, the overall build quality of the Commander seems top-notch – we’ve often fallen into the conservative “avoid ![]() 2011 Can-Am Commander first-year-products” mentality, figuring we’ll let others iron out the bugs before throwing down our own money, but we wouldn’t shy away from the first-year Commander at all. It is very well put together. We’ll have a full report on the Commander in the September issue of ATV Magazine, which mails to subscribers starting on about July 18 and hits newsstands on August 3.
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| Posted: 9 Jun 2010 01:00 am |
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Seems like a late entry into the sxs market...think they'll sell enough of em'???
____________________ 1987 Kitamura CNC mill "Walter" 2002 Ranger 1977 Lincoln Continental 2003 Rancher 1969 Deuce 1977 Highboy |
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| Posted: 9 Jun 2010 03:15 am |
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outlandish unemployed grandpa
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| Posted: 9 Jun 2010 03:16 am |
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very freekin nice
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| Posted: 9 Jun 2010 03:18 am |
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| Posted: 9 Jun 2010 03:20 am |
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outlandish unemployed grandpa
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Folgers wrote: Seems like a late entry into the sxs market...think they'll sell enough of em'??? I dunno Tony but that thing sure is sweet...and the new Outty's are supposed to be really nice too....sure wish I had a job LOL
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| Posted: 9 Jun 2010 01:13 pm |
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58+ " wide! The Can-am designers just designed themselves out of about 30% of the market, IMO. I'll be looking for a "gently used" RZR, to stretch, to get my 6" 5" body into. At 58.5 " (before wheel and tire mods), might as well get a 200+ HP dune buggy/Joyner type offroader. BUT, it does look like a cool SxS!
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| Posted: 9 Jun 2010 08:41 pm |
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outlandish unemployed grandpa
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it's about the same width as the Teryx.....pretty nwide for sure and won't be legal on some trails but it does have a wow factor.....what are the new Outty's going to be like?
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| Posted: 24 Jun 2010 01:52 am |
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outlandish unemployed grandpa
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Gorilla lifted, snorked and running 32 Silverbacks
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| Posted: 25 Jun 2010 03:15 am |
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so when are they gonna put that engine in a Renegade?
____________________ 1987 Kitamura CNC mill "Walter" 2002 Ranger 1977 Lincoln Continental 2003 Rancher 1969 Deuce 1977 Highboy |
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| Posted: 26 Jun 2010 07:20 pm |
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outlandish unemployed grandpa
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that would be nice.....the 1000 is 85hp and the 800 is the same 71hp as the rene's and outy's get
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